REPORTS FROM THE RECORDER
PLANNING ADVICE ON
USEFUL LOCAL INFORMATION
(Things to do, join and help with)
AND ITS COMMON
PUBLIC TRANSPORT INFORMATION AND REPORTS
RIDDLESDOWN RAILWAY STATION IS IN LONDON TRAVELCARD ZONE 6.
UPPER WARLINGHAM IS ALSO IN ZONE 6 AND IS THE LAST STATION ON THIS LINE, WITHIN THE LONDON ZONES
One specification of the current Southern Franchise is that London Area Stations are to be staffed from the first to the last train. Riddlesdown Station was classified by Southern as part of the East Grinstead Line for this purpose. Now that it is recognised as a London Area Station, staff will be on site whenever trains are running.
RIDDLESDOWN/LONDON TRAIN TIMES (SOUTHERN RAILWAY) Effective from 8 December 2013 until 17 May 2014; NOTE – MORE TRAINS ON SUNDAYS
To East Croydon (EC), & London Victoria, (London Bridge (LB)): Weekdays: 06.15(LB), 06.43(LB), 07.06, 07.18(LB), 07.35, 07.48(LB), 08.06, 08.18(LB), 08.37, 08.46(LB), 09.06, then 36 and 06 mins past hour until 23.06 (Plus LB train at 18.46, EC only trains 19.16 & 19.46).
Saturdays (To Victoria only): 07.06, 07.36 and then 06 and 36 mins past hour until 23.06.
Sundays (To Victoria only) 08.49, 09.41, and then 11 and 41 mins past hour until
20.41, 21.41, 22.41, 23.38. To London Bridge -
From London Victoria to Riddlesdown: Weekdays: 05.52, 06.24, 07.32, 08.53, 09.23 and then 53 and 23 mins past hour until 23.24 & 23.47.
Saturdays: 06.23, 06.53 and then 23 and 53 mins past hour until 23.24 & 23.47.
Sundays: 07.47, 08.53, 09.23, 09.53, 10.23, 10.53 and then 23 & 53 mins past hour until 19.53, 20.53, 21.53, 22.36.
From London Bridge to Riddlesdown:
Weekdays: 07.03, 07.19, 07.55, 07.58, 08.25, 17.15, 17.44, 18.16 & 18.47.
Saturdays & Sundays: No direct Services.
From East Croydon to Riddlesdown: Weekdays: 06.10, 06.41, 07.17 (to Hurst Green), 07.34, 07.52, 08.09, 08.16 (to Hurst Green), 08.41, 09.11, 09.40, 10.10 then 40 and 10 mins past hour until 17.30, 17.41, 17.58, 18.11, 18.31, 18.41, 19.01, 19.11, 19.40, 20.11, 20.40, 21.10, 21.40, 22.10, 22.40, 23.10, 23.41, 00.05.
Saturdays: 06.40, 07.10 then 40 & 10 mins past hour until 23.41 & 00.04.
Sundays: 08.10, 09.10, 09.40, & then 10 & 40 mins past hour until 20.10, 21.10, 22.10, 22.57.
Above information is taken from Southern Railway timetable. Effective from 8 December 2013.
FOR FULL TIMETABLE FOLLOW THIS LINK
Southern Customer Services: Tel: 08451 272920
National Rail Enquiries: Tel: 08457 484950,
From 23 March 2013, the privately owned and voluntarily run Bluebell Railway will be connected to the national rail system at East Grinstead, meaning that Riddlesdown residents can get on a train from Riddlesdown Station and travel from Riddlesdown to East Grinstead and then transfer onto the Bluebell Railway.
Further information and update reports: Link to Bluebell Railway
LOCAL BUS ROUTE AND TIMES
Local Bus Route and Frequency
Bus 412 (Arriva)
The 412 starts/ends at West Croydon Bus Station and travels along Wellesley Rd, Katharine Str, High Str, South End, Selsdon Rd, Upper Selsdon Rd, Addington Rd (stop for Selsdon), Rectory Park, Mitchley Ave, Downs Court Rd, Godstone Rd, & ends/starts at Brighton Rd, Purley Hospital.
Frequency Weekdays & Saturdays: Early; 20 mins, Peak; 15 mins, Daytime; 15 mins, Evenings; 20 mins, Late Evenings; 30 mins. Frequency Sundays; 30 mins.
Full Timetable for 412, follow this link to Tfl website and insert 412 in Bus timetable
Arriva London Tel 0845 300 7000 (0800-
(Sources: Trains: Southern Railway;
Buses: Transport for London (TfL).
Timetables are subject to change, so if in doubt, check with Tfl or the Operator(s). The RRA cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy of the above information.
Did you know that can already use contactless payment cards to pay for travel on London buses? Later in 2014 you'll be able to use a contactless payment cards on Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground and most National Rail services in London, as well.
What is a contactless payment card?
Contactless payment cards are debit, credit, charge or pre-
If you've got a contactless payment card but haven't used it yet, you might need to make a chip and PIN payment elsewhere before using it for contactless payments (including for travel).
For further details -
This Pass is supplied by the London Councils (all the London Boroughs and City of London) to residents of London.
There are two types of Freedom Pass.
1. The Disabled Pass is available to anybody with a qualifying disability (see website for full list) who lives in a London Borough and is part of the National disability scheme.
2. The Pensioners Freedom Pass is available to residents of a London Borough who have reached the state pension age (until 2010 the qualifying age was 60). At present it is 61 but will rise to 62 in 2013 (see web site for details of eligibility).
Validity London :
Outside London :
New 60+ Concessionary Travel Scheme:
The Mayor Boris Johnson has announced that he will introduce a new 60+ Concessionary Travel Scheme using a variation of the Oystercard from 1st November 2012 for those people over 60 years of age who no longer qualify for a Freedom Pass. The pass will have the same validity as a Freedom Pass except that it will not be valid buses outside London except for London routes such as 166 and 405.
Transport Report -
A railway for leisure
At Riddlesdown Station we are looked after by Akil, Isaac, and Paul who provide an open ticket office from the first to the last train. Their good work, making travel from and to Riddlesdown Station more attractive, gave people more confidence to use the improved Saturday service from December 2011 with the previous four carriages twice an hour improved, giving a minority of trains still at four coaches, with most at six coaches and some in each direction at ten coaches, and far more pleasant journeys to and from Victoria.
More people are using the train for leisure, and not just the trains provided by Southern.
To the south of us is the Bluebell Railway (which lent its former Chesham Railway coaches for the 150 Years from the opening of the London Underground celebrations that took place in January). The Bluebell Railway has been an important leisure destination in Sussex for many years and its trains will serve East Grinstead from 23 March 2013. Reaching the Bluebell Railway by train is attractive and, subject to final clearance from Network Rail, our Sunday Service is (planned by Southern) to be improved from one an hour to two an hour between 09:41 and 20:41 northbound and between 09:47 to 22:47 southbound.
I have no information regarding the number of coaches on each train, but aware that Southern train crews have been heard to say that each hourly train should be eight coaches, I am looking forward to being pleasantly surprised on 19th May 2013, when the timetable changes.
We have been mentioning, to Southern the station being unattractive due to the quantity of litter behind the fences so I am pleased to report on clearance of bottles and cans.
There is at the moment a tremendous amount of railway infrastructure work taking place at many locations, with the Coombe Road (Croydon) Bridge Works, from 7 January 2013 for twenty weeks, randomly impacting on the 412 Bus Service as other drivers seek to compensate for the partial closure of the bridge. This is being monitored.
Transport Report -
Since my last report there have been many improvements to the infrastructure of the bus and train services we enjoy. Essentially there have been no changes to frequencies – just many improvements to make our travel experiences better.
Buses The changes to the bus stops have been completed. The bus stops needed to deal
with the change from a one to a two door access point -
Trains. There have been a number of background changes for our benefit which include:
installation of conductor rail heating systems, the Riddlesdown Station ticket office
staffed when trains are running (more staff time to clear snow and ice from the ramps
from street to platform level), longer trains (which has been gratefully welcomed
by our commuting residents), the announcement of an order being placed for 26 new
Please support our good bus and train services by using them, and commenting (perhaps as a Committee Member) to the service providers. There is still pressure on further improvements which include the former Cinderella line between West Croydon and Wimbledon, which has become part of the successful Tramlink System (that last year ordered six new trams for delivery this year); the car park at Upper Warlingham Station – that is expected to be increased in size next year; and since the introduction of new diesel stock to Uckfield, a passenger journeys made increase from around 110,000 in 2004 to around 335,000 in the year to 31 March 2009. Only time will tell whether Sunday services will increase to half hourly (one from East Grinstead; one from Uckfield) on Sundays or if the line to Uckfield is electrified.
UK Power Networks -
Croydon Council and UK Power Networks (UKPN) have advised that UKPN are looking to renew a 33KV power cable from Purley to Addington. The scheme is part of a larger investment programme UKPN are delivering over the next few years to ensure their infrastructure is fit for purpose. At the present time UKPN are looking to start these works in Whytecliffe Rd North and Penwortham Rd from 3 March 2014.
The first stage of the works will be from the Sub-
UKPN are working with Croydon Council to keep any disruption to a minimum. They will be working throughout the week and some weekends on the busier roads, to reduce the length of time the works will take. Access to all properties will be maintained and they will carry out noise and traffic management surveys throughout the scheme.
The majority of the works will be done in 50 – 100m lengths controlled by two-
The two exceptions to this are when Riddlesdown Road has to be crossed, where three-
Plan of Proposed Route -
Full Route Map -
If anyone requires any further information they can contact UKPN by e-
Lower Barn Road -
Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984; Section 14
Vehicular traffic will temporarily be prohibited between the flank wall of 108/110
Lower Barn Rd (the left end shop and flat -
Enforcement and Infrastructure Manager
Development & Environment Dept
LB of Croydon
Update 31/3/14 -
Footnote 14/4/14 -
Purley Oaks Household Reuse & Recycling Centre Reopened on 29/3/14
The A22; Godstone Road re-
Update 13/4/14 -
Kenley Water Treatment Works
The situation at the Sutton and East Surrey Water, (Kenley Water Treatment Works) in Godstone Rd, that supplies 46,000 homes in our area is now well under control and is returning to normal with the need for flood protection greatly reduced.
The National Grid barriers have been removed, and although the Environment Agency
pumps are still on site, these are only there as a precaution in case of any more
unpredicted, prolonged rainfall. The Bourne culvert which passes under the site is
now only one third full so there is no cause for concern. SESW’s main focus is now
on looking at long-
Why is there flooding? The Caterham Bourne and the water table
The Caterham Bourne is located to the south of the borough running along the A22 corridor in Whyteleafe, Kenley & Purley Town Centre, then runs along the Brighton Rd to Waddon and into Broad Green Wards as it makes its way into Wandle Park and then into the River Wandle. Most of it is hidden in underground culverts but it is visible by Bourne Park in Kenley, in front of the Harris Primary Academy Kenley (formerly Roke School) and as the “pond” beside Purley Oaks Recycling Centre. This is the reason that sandbags have now been placed around this “pond” and a number of pumps are in operation there, to try and prevent flooding at this location because water levels are so high. The water is being pumped into the underground culvert that runs along the Brighton Rd towards Croydon.
An interesting history of the Caterham Bourne can be found on the “Bourne Society” website. It is titled “A celebration of the Bourne” (click on the next link at the bottom right side of each of their pages, to continue the story: Link